Wednesday, 28 July 2010

SELWYN WILLIAMS - V - THE ''WELSH BASTARD'' HENRY MORTON STANLEY! NO CONTEST? Selwyn Wins On Points But Only Just?

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    1. Henry Morton Stanley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      1. Sir Henry Morton Stanley, GCB, born John Rowlands (28 January 1841 – 10 May 1904), was a Welsh journalist and explorer famous for his exploration of Africa ...
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      Led by Huw Jones and Selwyn Williams, from Gwynedd, the campaigners said proposals for the sculpture ofHenry Morton Stanley in Denbigh are ...
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      Whingeing Nationalists carp on.... | Forums | Wales Online
      9 Oct 2007 ... "Two of the crassest imperialists were Henry Morton Stanley ...
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    2. Western Mail letters, your letters - WalesOnline

      27 Jul 2010 ... SIR – As a son of Denbighshire I'm appalled at the proposal to erect a statue toHenry Morton Stanley in Denbigh, his birth place, ...
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I say only just! as I detected in Selwyn's arguements the usual 'Suspect Sanctimonius Selective' view of Welsh history, not least on this issue! Myself, I can think of a load more Welsh people I wish did not have statues set up in their doubtfull honour, not least Lloyd George who has two statues (Caernarfon and Cardiff being so blessed?) in Wales and one in London.
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Row erupts as statue is unveiled of 'racist' PM Lloyd George| News ...

25 Oct 2007 ... A new statue of former Prime Minister David Lloyd George which was at the centre of an ... News news from The Evening Standard London, ... Rifkind described theprotests by Pinter and Pilger as 'misguided and foolish'. ...
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If that is not enough reason to have his statues pulled down, then just remember his role as another 'Oliver Cromwell'.
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BBC - History - 1916 Easter Rising - Profiles - Lloyd George

This legislation resulted in permanent Irish partition and provided Northern Ireland with its constitutional foundation. Lloyd George genuinely believed ...
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Of course we hear over and over the role of Winston Churchill regards the Tonypandy Riots 1911 but what of Lloyd George?
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BBC News - Churchill name for military base opposed, 100 years on

12 Jun 2010 ... In Pictures: Tonypandy strike 1910 ... Winston Churchill with Prime Minster David Lloyd George in London in 1910 ... More Wales stories ...
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Then there's Llanelli Riots 1911 >
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Llanelli 1911: war on railways|12Dec09|Socialist Worker

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So Robert Griffiths' new book on the great railway strike of 1911 is very welcome. ... strikers during attacks on police vans taking convicted rioters to Walton jail. ... Chancellor Lloyd George leaned on the railway bosses to agree a ...
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Last but not least, there is the 1911 Investiture >
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Thank you Lloyd George, the irony is that where now stands the Lloyd George Statue in Caernarfon, it had been planned to put up a statue of Owain Glyndwr. Who knows, if Catalans can get rid of Bull Fights just maybe the Welsh can get rid of the two statues of this great 'Cymric Bradwr'. Maybe Selwyn Williams or perhaps Dafydd Iwan, even better could start such a 'Patriotic Campaign' seeing he so much misses 'The Last Native Prince of Wales'. C'mon Cymry start a media letter campaign 'Get Rid Of Lloyd George Statues', they are getting rid of Franco's Statues in Spain and of Course the Baltic Nations have got rid of Stalin and Lennin. So getting rid of Lloyd George is not such an 'extreme' Patriotic Act and what better way to mark the 100th anniversary of the 1911 'Lloyd George' Investiture?
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As for a 'Stanley Statue' or any other Imperialist be they British or American, there are aplenty statues of 'Victorian Anglo - Welsh Capitalist Imperialists', there are statues of in Wales. Many of whom have 'Blood on their Hands' regards both 'Colonising Adventures' in Africa as well as 'Capitalist Exploitation' in Wales. However, as for H.M.S. I find a statue of the ''Welsh Bastard'', kind of appeals to me in so far such a statue being a 'Swipe at Saxon Arrogance' in looking down at Stanley the 'Welsh American'.
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On any account of Welsh Connections with Slavery should we not consider the role of Welsh Pirates, not least Barti Ddu. What if a Statue proposed for he, would that as much be condemned and attacked so ferociously as Stanley is now? I do not think so! as already he is subject of Childrens tales, of course with a touch of 'Selective Cymric Amnesia', involved!
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Times Higher Education - Pirates and the Middle Passage

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Then there's General Picton, he's already got an huge statue in Carmarthen
and a bloody big one in Carmarthen despite a record none too rightouse in treatment of Slaves. Although he got off charges of 'extreme cruelty', it seems 'Moderate Cruelty' was ok!.See link below:
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James Epstein | AHR Forum: Politics of Colonial Sensation: The ...

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The villainous Picton wears black: "Governor Picton walked the Hall of the Four Courts, .....14; David Patrick Geggus, "The Cost of Pitt's Caribbean Campaigns, ... For his speculations, see the correspondence between Picton and General ...
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Then there's General Nott, he's also got a statue in
Carmarthen, now this
'Brit Imperialist' should
really
grab a lot of attention at the moment re Afghanistan.
What a wonderful place, Nott Square, Carmarthen to
have Anti - War Rallies before this statue of a 'Welsh
Colonial Adventurer'. No chance of that?
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William Nott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A statue of General Nott was erected in his home town of Carmarthen in 1851. Sculpted by Edward Davis, it has Grade II Listed status. According to the PMSA ...
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However, there is this very serious 'Dark Cloud' hanging over the ''Welsh Bastard'' and so myself would go not so much for a the suggestion of a 'Museum of Reconciliation', much better a 'Museum of Slavery' and I mean all forms of 'Slavery', old and new and across all borders. A museum which is not 'Selective' to salve some 'Welsh Pacifist Religious Cultural Nationalist ' self induced 'Guilt Factor'. Such 'Museum of Slavery
  1. needs to include an 'Inclusive' history of all forms of Slavery inc Islams Muslim Slavers in Africa and off the Coasts of Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall and England. If does tell all the truth of the intrusion upon and into Africa by the 'Nothern Hemisphere' but leaves out the 'Intrusion' of an equally brutal intrusion by the Islamic Arab World. A Slavery carried out as great and over a longer period than 'White Slave Traders' then what and whose truth is told? Whatever, to help you make up your own mind, see links on the issue of Slavery below:
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I am not impressed with calls for a 'Museum of Reconciliation', what the hell does that really mean or have to say as a 'Statement of Altruism' when we all today share in the 'Great Guilt' of continued Slavery in the Congo, yes! Slavery still, see link below:
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  1. Child Slavery, Coltan and The Congo « Stop Child Slavery

    4 Dec 2008 ... Every day hundreds of thousands of Congolese child-slaves are forced to crawl into underground mines on their hands and knees to dig for the ...
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    So Selwyn and others out there talking about 'Reconciliation'
    Next time you use your Mobile Phone, I suggest you think
    more about 'REPARATIONS' to the 'People of the Congo'. Further,
    what about a 'Welsh Campaign' in support of 'STOP CHILD SLAVERY'.
    See link below, to Cydsafiad blog for further info on such a campaign. >
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    Further Information on the history of Slavery, note regards 'Red Legs', a 'Welsh Connection'.
    I believe, that 'Royalist Welsh Prisoners' were sent to 'Hell or Barbados' after the Battle of
    Sant Fagan 1648.
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      1. 22 Mar 2007 ... Do take the broader issue of slavery in history, not least the Islamic .... on any Welsh Historical Commemorations as for example the 725th ...
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      Redlegs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Redlegs was a term used to refer to the class of poor whites that lived on colonial Barbados, St. Vincent, Grenada and a few other Caribbean islands. ...
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  1. White Slavery, what the Scots already know

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The Social Affairs Unit - Web Review: Slavery in the Islamic World ...

17 Aug 2006 ... Although some accounts of Muslim slavery stress that it was milder ...Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, ... William D. Rubinstein is professor of modern history at the University of Wales-Aberystwyth. ... the slave trade in the Indian Ocean, especially off East Africa, ...
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Wales and the Mediaeval Slave Trade

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9 A tenth century Arabic writer Masudi speaks of Scandinavian merchant vessels in ... the Welsh, the slave trade in Wales took on a new aspect. ... stimulated a trade in the Welsh interior as well as along the coast in order to meet ...
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  1. Data Wales: The Welsh and slavery in America.

    Several correspondents, while tracing their family history had been uncomfortably surprised by evidence that their Welsh ancestors had keptslaves but there ...
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  2. BBC - South East Wales History - Remembering Slavery: Nathaniel ...

    Remembering Slavery: Nathaniel Wells. Memorial to Nathaniel Wells - photo courtesy of St Arvan's Church. The Black Welsh Slave Owner. by Nick Skinner...
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  3. BBC - South East Wales History - The Welsh abolitionists

    27 Aug 2008 ... In the 1770s a number of former slaves published their life stories and Williams was the first to translate one of these into Welsh. ...
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  4. Welsh Ballads and American Slavery

    Welsh Ballads and American Slavery. by Dr E. Wyn James. School ofWelsh, Cardiff University. First published in The Welsh Journal of ReligiousHistory, ...
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  5. "Negro Cloth": a Welsh contribution to Atlantic slavery, History ...

    "Negro Cloth": a Welsh contribution to Atlantic slavery ... For their part, New World planters knew little of the origins of 'Negro Cloth'; they obtained ...
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  7. Chris Evans | Books | Slave Wales: the Welsh and Atlanticslavery ...

    Atlantic slavery does not loom large in the traditional telling of Welsh history. Yet Wales, like many regions of Europe, was deeply affected by the forced ...
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  8. History of Liverpool - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Arab slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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